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		<title>By: Roger Zimmerman</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2012/10/16/todays-software-patents-look-a-lot-like-early-pharma-patents/#comment-54892</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And, yet, there _are_ some software-based inventions that are truly innovative.  I have 10 patents (with 5 more applications in process), and I don&#039;t put quotes around the word: invention.  I wouldn&#039;t have applied for these patents if I didn&#039;t think they were genuine advances, no matter what my employer wanted from me. Indeed, I often said &quot;no&quot;, when the IP folks were prodding me to apply, if I didn&#039;t think the innovation was clear enough. 

Now, my companies were certainly playing  the defensive game, as you point out.  And, in almost every case, the USPTO examiners were not well-trained enough in the specific area of art, nor did they have the tools, to determine with certainty how innovative these were.  They issued some pro-forma objections based on rudimentary database searches and sometimes required claim narrowing - usually unjustified, in my view -  before granting allowances.  I should also point out that I have also had applications completely rejected, and rightfully so, based on earlier applications in process, which I did not know about at the time of filing.   And, who knows, it may emerge from litigation that some of my patents were indeed anticipated by others.

These - and yours - are all arguments for why any intellectual property protection regime run by humans will make mistakes, and possibly be inefficient in an economic utility sense.  But, as Adam points out, this is NOT specific to software.  &quot;Incrementalism&quot;, legal overhead, lack of expertise by government employees - these have always existed in all fields.  If these are grounds for abolishing software patents, then virtually all patents should be abolished.  

So, the question becomes one of fundamentals:  do individuals have rights in their intellectual property?  If so, some IP protection scheme is a proper function of government.    We should endeavor to improve it, to advocate for clarity and efficiency, to draw objective boundaries around its domain.  But, to &quot;abolish&quot; protection for an arbitrary class of inventions, where some of those inventions are actually useful innovations, would be a violation of individual rights, and therefore wrong.  Just because you and other software engineers (even if it&#039;s &quot;almost every&quot; one you&#039;ve spoken to on the subject) find the current protection regime to be inconvenient in your field does not invalidate these principles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, yet, there _are_ some software-based inventions that are truly innovative.  I have 10 patents (with 5 more applications in process), and I don&#8217;t put quotes around the word: invention.  I wouldn&#8217;t have applied for these patents if I didn&#8217;t think they were genuine advances, no matter what my employer wanted from me. Indeed, I often said &#8220;no&#8221;, when the IP folks were prodding me to apply, if I didn&#8217;t think the innovation was clear enough. </p>
<p>Now, my companies were certainly playing  the defensive game, as you point out.  And, in almost every case, the USPTO examiners were not well-trained enough in the specific area of art, nor did they have the tools, to determine with certainty how innovative these were.  They issued some pro-forma objections based on rudimentary database searches and sometimes required claim narrowing &#8211; usually unjustified, in my view &#8211;  before granting allowances.  I should also point out that I have also had applications completely rejected, and rightfully so, based on earlier applications in process, which I did not know about at the time of filing.   And, who knows, it may emerge from litigation that some of my patents were indeed anticipated by others.</p>
<p>These &#8211; and yours &#8211; are all arguments for why any intellectual property protection regime run by humans will make mistakes, and possibly be inefficient in an economic utility sense.  But, as Adam points out, this is NOT specific to software.  &#8220;Incrementalism&#8221;, legal overhead, lack of expertise by government employees &#8211; these have always existed in all fields.  If these are grounds for abolishing software patents, then virtually all patents should be abolished.  </p>
<p>So, the question becomes one of fundamentals:  do individuals have rights in their intellectual property?  If so, some IP protection scheme is a proper function of government.    We should endeavor to improve it, to advocate for clarity and efficiency, to draw objective boundaries around its domain.  But, to &#8220;abolish&#8221; protection for an arbitrary class of inventions, where some of those inventions are actually useful innovations, would be a violation of individual rights, and therefore wrong.  Just because you and other software engineers (even if it&#8217;s &#8220;almost every&#8221; one you&#8217;ve spoken to on the subject) find the current protection regime to be inconvenient in your field does not invalidate these principles.</p>
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		<title>By: The &#8220;Patent Litigation Explosion&#8221; Canard &#171; Truth on the Market</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2012/10/16/todays-software-patents-look-a-lot-like-early-pharma-patents/#comment-54658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The &#8220;Patent Litigation Explosion&#8221; Canard &#171; Truth on the Market]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Today’s Software Patents Look a Lot Like Early Pharma Patents &#124; JP 2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Perlow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Perlow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam, as a software engineer who worked at Microsoft, Google, and other top companies as well as the &quot;inventor&quot; of many software patents, I can confidently tell you that you have no clue what you&#039;re talking about. Very few software patents amount to real invention or innovation. Almost all of them are minor incremental improvements that are generally obvious to anybody in the field. Software is an extremely incremental process and every piece of software written builds upon the ideas of thousands of product and programs that came before it. The software patent process does not increase innovation -- it stifles it. If you talked to software engineers that worked at the most important tech companies (clearly you have not), they will all tell you the same thing. The best software engineers hate having to deal with lawyers and patent applications and they only file patent applications because of the pressure on tech companies to build defensive patent portfolios. The best software engineers rarely even understand the patent applications they are signing because they are written in a legal jargon that has little resemblance to the designs and programs that actually inspired the patents. The end result is a huge tax on innovation. Almost every software engineer I&#039;ve ever talked to about this subject agrees that software patents should be abolished. The people who benefit from software patents are the lawyers and the patent trolls. The victims are the consumers who see much less innovation because of the toxic patent environment and pay higher prices to fund this gigantic tax on the innovation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, as a software engineer who worked at Microsoft, Google, and other top companies as well as the &#8220;inventor&#8221; of many software patents, I can confidently tell you that you have no clue what you&#8217;re talking about. Very few software patents amount to real invention or innovation. Almost all of them are minor incremental improvements that are generally obvious to anybody in the field. Software is an extremely incremental process and every piece of software written builds upon the ideas of thousands of product and programs that came before it. The software patent process does not increase innovation &#8212; it stifles it. If you talked to software engineers that worked at the most important tech companies (clearly you have not), they will all tell you the same thing. The best software engineers hate having to deal with lawyers and patent applications and they only file patent applications because of the pressure on tech companies to build defensive patent portfolios. The best software engineers rarely even understand the patent applications they are signing because they are written in a legal jargon that has little resemblance to the designs and programs that actually inspired the patents. The end result is a huge tax on innovation. Almost every software engineer I&#8217;ve ever talked to about this subject agrees that software patents should be abolished. The people who benefit from software patents are the lawyers and the patent trolls. The victims are the consumers who see much less innovation because of the toxic patent environment and pay higher prices to fund this gigantic tax on the innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: Satya Thallam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Satya Thallam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, isn&#039;t Judge Posner&#039;s first criticism (&quot;...a shortage of patent examiners with the requisite technical skills&quot;) less a fundamental problem with the patent system and more a technocratic one? That is, if this is in fact a problem that causes some deadweight loss in commercial activity, then the solution isn&#039;t a substantive change in policy, but rather an increase in PTO funding (or some equivalent margin).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, isn&#8217;t Judge Posner&#8217;s first criticism (&#8220;&#8230;a shortage of patent examiners with the requisite technical skills&#8221;) less a fundamental problem with the patent system and more a technocratic one? That is, if this is in fact a problem that causes some deadweight loss in commercial activity, then the solution isn&#8217;t a substantive change in policy, but rather an increase in PTO funding (or some equivalent margin).</p>
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