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	<title>Comments on: Crane on Carrier&#039;s Innovation in the 21st Century</title>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2009/03/30/crane-on-carriers-innovation-in-the-21st-century/#comment-7631</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: Three Tenors, the logic in 3T was that we should assign burdens of proof not just in accord with agreements that we are suspicious of --- but agreements that we have an empirical basis (either through economic knowledge or judicial experience) or foundation from which to form the expectation that this class of contract is associated with reduction in social costs, social welfare, etc.

Granted, I&#039;ve argued elsewhere that the D.C. Circuit and the Commission was misunderstood the empirical basis supporting the link between the moratorium agreement and negative consumer welfare effects --- BUT, the logic of the relationship between empirical knowledge of bad effects and burdens makes sense.

Applied here, isn&#039;t Professor Crane&#039;s point that we don&#039;t know enough about the consequences of these agreements (and their social costs) to condemn them on the basis of the observation of a reverse payment?  In other words, the presence of the reverse payment is not a good predictor of negative welfare consequences.  That claim may or may not hold up as an empirical matter, but it seems to me to be the right inquiry before we slap on a presumption of illegality to a class of agreements.

To be clear, I&#039;m not taking a position here on the the likely social consequences of a rule that banned reverse payments.  And of course, one can argue by analogy that reverse payments are like other agreements that are presumptively illegal.  But again, I think that evades the point Dan is making here about what we know and don&#039;t know about the relationship between these settlements and social welfare.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Three Tenors, the logic in 3T was that we should assign burdens of proof not just in accord with agreements that we are suspicious of &#8212; but agreements that we have an empirical basis (either through economic knowledge or judicial experience) or foundation from which to form the expectation that this class of contract is associated with reduction in social costs, social welfare, etc.</p>
<p>Granted, I&#8217;ve argued elsewhere that the D.C. Circuit and the Commission was misunderstood the empirical basis supporting the link between the moratorium agreement and negative consumer welfare effects &#8212; BUT, the logic of the relationship between empirical knowledge of bad effects and burdens makes sense.</p>
<p>Applied here, isn&#8217;t Professor Crane&#8217;s point that we don&#8217;t know enough about the consequences of these agreements (and their social costs) to condemn them on the basis of the observation of a reverse payment?  In other words, the presence of the reverse payment is not a good predictor of negative welfare consequences.  That claim may or may not hold up as an empirical matter, but it seems to me to be the right inquiry before we slap on a presumption of illegality to a class of agreements.</p>
<p>To be clear, I&#8217;m not taking a position here on the the likely social consequences of a rule that banned reverse payments.  And of course, one can argue by analogy that reverse payments are like other agreements that are presumptively illegal.  But again, I think that evades the point Dan is making here about what we know and don&#8217;t know about the relationship between these settlements and social welfare.</p>
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		<title>By: antitrust guy</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2009/03/30/crane-on-carriers-innovation-in-the-21st-century/#comment-7630</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[antitrust guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would Leegin protect generic RPM?  Leegin addresses horizontal intrabrand competition at the retail level. There seem to be a lot of steps to get to RPM that limits interbrand competition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would Leegin protect generic RPM?  Leegin addresses horizontal intrabrand competition at the retail level. There seem to be a lot of steps to get to RPM that limits interbrand competition.</p>
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		<title>By: antitrust guy</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2009/03/30/crane-on-carriers-innovation-in-the-21st-century/#comment-7629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[antitrust guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carrier&#039;s proposed approach doesn&#039;t assign liability, it merely assigns burdens of proof.  How is this different from Polygram (3 Tenors)?  If we&#039;re more suspicious about certain types of agreements, imposing a higher burden on the defendant to justify it seems reasonable.  Yes, shifting burdens do create a higher likelihood of liability, but in patent settlement cases, isn&#039;t the information relevant to competitive effects almost entirely in the hands of the defendants (patent &quot;strength&quot;, financial solvency, etc.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrier&#8217;s proposed approach doesn&#8217;t assign liability, it merely assigns burdens of proof.  How is this different from Polygram (3 Tenors)?  If we&#8217;re more suspicious about certain types of agreements, imposing a higher burden on the defendant to justify it seems reasonable.  Yes, shifting burdens do create a higher likelihood of liability, but in patent settlement cases, isn&#8217;t the information relevant to competitive effects almost entirely in the hands of the defendants (patent &#8220;strength&#8221;, financial solvency, etc.)</p>
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