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	<title>Comments on: The Future of Law and Economics, Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2008/04/28/the-future-of-law-and-economics-part-1/#comment-7247</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jared]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 05:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great idea for a series--I look forward to reading it.

As a law and econ guy who has attended a fair number of law and economics seminars, I&#039;ve almost never encountered problem #2.  I have, however, often seen problem #3.  Anecdotally, I might even go so far as to say that problem #4 dominates modern corporate law scholarship, with many leading legal scholars playing with data without offering or testing concrete hypotheses.

But as for the future of law and economics (as opposed to the future of legal scholarship), I&#039;m inclined to bet with David.  Most of the economists I know believe that the low hanging fruit in the legal world is empirical, and that techy, structural models will win few adherents (and hence have few career benefits) in the legal academy.  The problem, in short, may just be that for most economists, constructing good theoretical models is extremely difficult and requires substantial creativity, but analyzing clean, unexplored data is relatively mechanical.  The upshot is that if an economist sees unexplored data, he can probably write a good paper.  But if she sees an &quot;unmodeled&quot; phenomenon, her task is very difficult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea for a series&#8211;I look forward to reading it.</p>
<p>As a law and econ guy who has attended a fair number of law and economics seminars, I&#8217;ve almost never encountered problem #2.  I have, however, often seen problem #3.  Anecdotally, I might even go so far as to say that problem #4 dominates modern corporate law scholarship, with many leading legal scholars playing with data without offering or testing concrete hypotheses.</p>
<p>But as for the future of law and economics (as opposed to the future of legal scholarship), I&#8217;m inclined to bet with David.  Most of the economists I know believe that the low hanging fruit in the legal world is empirical, and that techy, structural models will win few adherents (and hence have few career benefits) in the legal academy.  The problem, in short, may just be that for most economists, constructing good theoretical models is extremely difficult and requires substantial creativity, but analyzing clean, unexplored data is relatively mechanical.  The upshot is that if an economist sees unexplored data, he can probably write a good paper.  But if she sees an &#8220;unmodeled&#8221; phenomenon, her task is very difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Henderson</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2008/04/28/the-future-of-law-and-economics-part-1/#comment-7246</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Henderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 12:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fantastic post.  Thanks for writing it.  Very thoughtful.  bh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post.  Thanks for writing it.  Very thoughtful.  bh.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert J. Peterson</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2008/04/28/the-future-of-law-and-economics-part-1/#comment-7245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert J. Peterson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#1 and #2 are real problems.  One of the strengths L&amp;E has had and one of the niches it originally filled was policy application, as economics became more mathematical and, frankly, less practical.  Part of this is a factor of academic incentives -- in Econ departments, you are rewarded for the strength of the models you design and the regressions you run.  Real-world policy problems are notoriously difficult to model, and good data hard to come by.  Hence, the focus on &quot;neat&quot; problems that can be modeled, which has gradually pushed traditional economics away from policy.

L&amp;E developed to fill that vacuum.  Divorce L&amp;E from policy application, and it&#039;s value evaporates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 and #2 are real problems.  One of the strengths L&amp;E has had and one of the niches it originally filled was policy application, as economics became more mathematical and, frankly, less practical.  Part of this is a factor of academic incentives &#8212; in Econ departments, you are rewarded for the strength of the models you design and the regressions you run.  Real-world policy problems are notoriously difficult to model, and good data hard to come by.  Hence, the focus on &#8220;neat&#8221; problems that can be modeled, which has gradually pushed traditional economics away from policy.</p>
<p>L&amp;E developed to fill that vacuum.  Divorce L&amp;E from policy application, and it&#8217;s value evaporates.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2008/04/28/the-future-of-law-and-economics-part-1/#comment-7244</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this series--looking forward to reading it.

I think it also makes sense to think of the formal/informal distinction in terms of basic and applied research.

Modeling and empirical papers are essential but by themselves are unlikely to settle any issue. The nature of the research means their findings tend to be quite narrow--there is often another variable not tested, or an shaky assumption a model depends upon. Less formal work that synthesizes and integrates formal work with the contours of the law, institutions, and economic theory generally can actually be much more persuasive.

Of course, the bar for informal work is substantially higher than it used to be, and legal scholars doing certain types of work must take it upon themselves to learn how to read econometric papers, and specifically to know their limitations in general and of the models, findings, and measurement methods of any particular paper.

Less formal papers are also valuable to formal researchers in that it may give them hypotheses to test or model. While informal work is certainly taken less seriously by economists, if done correctly it shouldn&#039;t be taken less seriously by legal scholars and policymakers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this series&#8211;looking forward to reading it.</p>
<p>I think it also makes sense to think of the formal/informal distinction in terms of basic and applied research.</p>
<p>Modeling and empirical papers are essential but by themselves are unlikely to settle any issue. The nature of the research means their findings tend to be quite narrow&#8211;there is often another variable not tested, or an shaky assumption a model depends upon. Less formal work that synthesizes and integrates formal work with the contours of the law, institutions, and economic theory generally can actually be much more persuasive.</p>
<p>Of course, the bar for informal work is substantially higher than it used to be, and legal scholars doing certain types of work must take it upon themselves to learn how to read econometric papers, and specifically to know their limitations in general and of the models, findings, and measurement methods of any particular paper.</p>
<p>Less formal papers are also valuable to formal researchers in that it may give them hypotheses to test or model. While informal work is certainly taken less seriously by economists, if done correctly it shouldn&#8217;t be taken less seriously by legal scholars and policymakers.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2008/04/28/the-future-of-law-and-economics-part-1/#comment-7243</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely David.  Thanks.  I plan on addressing the theory v. econometrics distinction in a later post.  But for now, let me just say that I agree with you 100% that I endorse the proposition that the future path for econometricians (in law schools) is much brighter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely David.  Thanks.  I plan on addressing the theory v. econometrics distinction in a later post.  But for now, let me just say that I agree with you 100% that I endorse the proposition that the future path for econometricians (in law schools) is much brighter.</p>
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		<title>By: David Zaring</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2008/04/28/the-future-of-law-and-economics-part-1/#comment-7242</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Zaring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great stuff, I will only note that although you know the field much better than do I, I&#039;d bet more on empiricism than modeling based on who is getting hired by economics departments (which I understand to be foreign-born empiricists).  But maybe you plan on weighing in on that in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff, I will only note that although you know the field much better than do I, I&#8217;d bet more on empiricism than modeling based on who is getting hired by economics departments (which I understand to be foreign-born empiricists).  But maybe you plan on weighing in on that in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Theory Blog</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2008/04/28/the-future-of-law-and-economics-part-1/#comment-7241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Legal Theory Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Wright on the Future of Law &lt;/strong&gt;

Josh Wright has a very interesting post (Part I with more to come) on the future of law and ecomomics. Here is a taste:One consequence of the increase in formal theory and empirical work is increased specialization in economics, and]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Wright on the Future of Law </strong></p>
<p>Josh Wright has a very interesting post (Part I with more to come) on the future of law and ecomomics. Here is a taste:One consequence of the increase in formal theory and empirical work is increased specialization in economics, and</p>
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		<title>By: Ideoblog</title>
		<link>http://truthonthemarket.com/2008/04/28/the-future-of-law-and-economics-part-1/#comment-7240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ideoblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Wright on the future of law and economics&lt;/strong&gt;

Over at TOTM, Josh Wright is beginning a series of what looks to be a very interesting discussion of the future of law and economics. Josh addresses the potential costs of the increasing sophistication and formalization of law and economics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Wright on the future of law and economics</strong></p>
<p>Over at TOTM, Josh Wright is beginning a series of what looks to be a very interesting discussion of the future of law and economics. Josh addresses the potential costs of the increasing sophistication and formalization of law and economics.</p>
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