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		<title>By: M.L. Gilbertson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M.L. Gilbertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I noticed the article said little was known about Lee Raymonds youth.  Well,  I  grew up about a block
away from his house in Watertown , S. D.   I was his
older brothers best friend and my folks were very
close friends and Lees&#039; father was an engineer on
the M&amp; St. L. railroad while my dad was agent. I was with my father the morning Lee was born, his father called my dad and told him Lee was
born to  , Irma, that morning and that
Lee had been born with a bad cleft lip like his
father had.  His dad was distraught and my father
comforted him and later helped get medical aid to
repair the lip.    I was 10 years old at the time
and Lees&#039; brother George was about 6 years older than Lee.  We moved into the neighborhood about
1930 and spent many winter days at their house where the folks played pinochel.  Lee displayed a
brilliant mind all through his youth and was an
outstanding student at Watertown High and was a
leader on the debate team.   I haven&#039;t talked with
Lee since he was President in New York many years
before Dallas.  It is truly a Horatio Alger story
and Lee deserves every penny he was paid. Don&#039;t
forget Uncle Sam probably took half of it. We spent many summers picknicking on Lake Kampeska
and hunting pheasants with his dad in the fall.
Lee was close to his dad and his dad told me that
Lee would lead Exxon someday and he was right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed the article said little was known about Lee Raymonds youth.  Well,  I  grew up about a block<br />
away from his house in Watertown , S. D.   I was his<br />
older brothers best friend and my folks were very<br />
close friends and Lees&#8217; father was an engineer on<br />
the M&amp; St. L. railroad while my dad was agent. I was with my father the morning Lee was born, his father called my dad and told him Lee was<br />
born to  , Irma, that morning and that<br />
Lee had been born with a bad cleft lip like his<br />
father had.  His dad was distraught and my father<br />
comforted him and later helped get medical aid to<br />
repair the lip.    I was 10 years old at the time<br />
and Lees&#8217; brother George was about 6 years older than Lee.  We moved into the neighborhood about<br />
1930 and spent many winter days at their house where the folks played pinochel.  Lee displayed a<br />
brilliant mind all through his youth and was an<br />
outstanding student at Watertown High and was a<br />
leader on the debate team.   I haven&#8217;t talked with<br />
Lee since he was President in New York many years<br />
before Dallas.  It is truly a Horatio Alger story<br />
and Lee deserves every penny he was paid. Don&#8217;t<br />
forget Uncle Sam probably took half of it. We spent many summers picknicking on Lake Kampeska<br />
and hunting pheasants with his dad in the fall.<br />
Lee was close to his dad and his dad told me that<br />
Lee would lead Exxon someday and he was right.</p>
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		<title>By: Sig Lanoux</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sig Lanoux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know this comment is a little late but I just saw the article and comments above. I would like to make a statement and ask a question. The Economic Policy Institute published a memorandum (#120) in 2007 which reported on congress action which allowed hedge fund managers to count a lot of their income as investment income so it could reduce their tax rate to 15% on this income.

Sometimes actions like this flow into other categories. Is it possible that he could have received special treatment so that his taxes were also reduced?

Just curious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this comment is a little late but I just saw the article and comments above. I would like to make a statement and ask a question. The Economic Policy Institute published a memorandum (#120) in 2007 which reported on congress action which allowed hedge fund managers to count a lot of their income as investment income so it could reduce their tax rate to 15% on this income.</p>
<p>Sometimes actions like this flow into other categories. Is it possible that he could have received special treatment so that his taxes were also reduced?</p>
<p>Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Lovely A</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lovely A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can anyone try and defend a $398 million dollar retirement package???? When the working poor are paying $2-3.50 for a gallon of gas. We paid his retirement package. As someone else said divide the money between all exxon workers for their retirement package.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can anyone try and defend a $398 million dollar retirement package???? When the working poor are paying $2-3.50 for a gallon of gas. We paid his retirement package. As someone else said divide the money between all exxon workers for their retirement package.</p>
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		<title>By: David Kyriacou</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Kyriacou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exxon will have its day but it won&#039;t be in some
kangaroo court.
It may take decades but as they always say &quot;what comes around goes around.&quot;
They have been ruining our earth for a long time
but the earth will have its say.
Amen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exxon will have its day but it won&#8217;t be in some<br />
kangaroo court.<br />
It may take decades but as they always say &#8220;what comes around goes around.&#8221;<br />
They have been ruining our earth for a long time<br />
but the earth will have its say.<br />
Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Allen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh Christ, Bill, your arguement is PURELY SEMANTICS. because Lee Raymond is &quot;retiring&quot; he will cash in those OPTIONS and STOCKS from previous years.

BTW, I noticed you never mentioned that Lee Raymond led the fight against Alaskans on their punative judgement against Exxon for the Valdez disaster that destroyed lives and careers.

Exxon STILL has not paid, after almost 2 decades! Exxon has even manufactured evidence that &quot;juries cannot decide punative decisions&quot; by paying psyhcitrists to publish such papers on medical journals, and then presenting the journals in court.

Lee Raymond should be going to jail for entering fraudulent evidence in court.

Go to the wall for something else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Christ, Bill, your arguement is PURELY SEMANTICS. because Lee Raymond is &#8220;retiring&#8221; he will cash in those OPTIONS and STOCKS from previous years.</p>
<p>BTW, I noticed you never mentioned that Lee Raymond led the fight against Alaskans on their punative judgement against Exxon for the Valdez disaster that destroyed lives and careers.</p>
<p>Exxon STILL has not paid, after almost 2 decades! Exxon has even manufactured evidence that &#8220;juries cannot decide punative decisions&#8221; by paying psyhcitrists to publish such papers on medical journals, and then presenting the journals in court.</p>
<p>Lee Raymond should be going to jail for entering fraudulent evidence in court.</p>
<p>Go to the wall for something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My appologies, $396,000,000]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My appologies, $396,000,000</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What the hell is one guy going to do with $400,000,000???  The real question to ask is:  How many people got screwed over so one man could earn that much money.  This man could have a GREAT retirement with $4,000,000, which is WAY more than what most other people are making.  The other $36,000,000 along with, say 8 billion in PROFITS could be distributed to the rest of Exxon employees pension plans.  No one needs that much money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the hell is one guy going to do with $400,000,000???  The real question to ask is:  How many people got screwed over so one man could earn that much money.  This man could have a GREAT retirement with $4,000,000, which is WAY more than what most other people are making.  The other $36,000,000 along with, say 8 billion in PROFITS could be distributed to the rest of Exxon employees pension plans.  No one needs that much money.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel H</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of your statiscal inferences are irrelevent to the central issue, which is that the CEOs of oil companies ARE being inordinant salaries while raising gas prices to extreme highs. No number-play can deny that, you are all clearly using fallacies which aren&#039;t fooling anyone.

And the fact is, 2005 was Lee&#039;s final year and final year salary is included in his retirement package as this is part of his pension. Idiots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of your statiscal inferences are irrelevent to the central issue, which is that the CEOs of oil companies ARE being inordinant salaries while raising gas prices to extreme highs. No number-play can deny that, you are all clearly using fallacies which aren&#8217;t fooling anyone.</p>
<p>And the fact is, 2005 was Lee&#8217;s final year and final year salary is included in his retirement package as this is part of his pension. Idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dale M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 13:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, one last thing (really):

A more legitimate complaint about CEO pay to my mind is that far too often, CEO pay is like money made by a heavyweight prizefighter, where even a losing fighter can earn $10 mil. I certainly don&#039;t know the Oil&amp;Gas business, but unless there are good reasons for their lower % profits, the CEOs and execs of Valero Energy and Sunoco should probably be fired, with very little golden parachute. The fact that even terrible CEOs get away with multi-million dollar severances does seem to be a serious problem with corporate boards and their oversight (although even terrible CEOs still have their pay used as an incentive for the many underling execs that aspire to have a &#039;C&#039; at the beginning of their job title.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, one last thing (really):</p>
<p>A more legitimate complaint about CEO pay to my mind is that far too often, CEO pay is like money made by a heavyweight prizefighter, where even a losing fighter can earn $10 mil. I certainly don&#8217;t know the Oil&amp;Gas business, but unless there are good reasons for their lower % profits, the CEOs and execs of Valero Energy and Sunoco should probably be fired, with very little golden parachute. The fact that even terrible CEOs get away with multi-million dollar severances does seem to be a serious problem with corporate boards and their oversight (although even terrible CEOs still have their pay used as an incentive for the many underling execs that aspire to have a &#8216;C&#8217; at the beginning of their job title.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dale M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 13:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, while this is somewhat off-track to the Exxon CEO pay, it is interesting to note that Exxon only has &#039;record profits&#039; in an absolute sense, with record absolute total dollar of profits since Exxon is the largest revenue-producing company in the world. But Exxon only ranks 23 in percentage profitability, at 10.6%, in the recent Fortune 100 published in April 06. This is not particularly surprising, since Oil&amp;Gas is an industry with fairly high cost of infrastructue, even in an era of high oil prices. Also not surprising is that Microsoft is the clear winner in percentage of profits in the Fortune 100, at a stunning 30.8%, since they have little infrastructure costs, only really pay for employees&#039; salaries, and have very high average margins for their products. Next in percentage of profitability are also unsurprising: Cisco (a very distant second at 23.1%), Intel (22.3%), Coca-Cola (21.1%), Merck (21.0%), Johnson &amp; Johnson (20.6%), Bank of America (19.6%), Wells Fargo (19.0%), Citigroup (18.8%), Wachovia Group (18.5%), then Pfizer, Abbott Labs, Altria Group, Goldman Sachs, P&amp;G, PepsiCo, Motorola, Amex, Prudential, AT&amp;T, Merril Lynch THEN Exxon. So clearly, Congress should pass a windfall profits tax on high-tech, banks and brokers, pharmaceutical and consumer products companies before Exxon and Oil&amp;Gas companies.

It is also very interesting to note that among the Fortune 100 Petroleum companies, Exxon clearly beats all of them in profitability, a striking measure of productivity and efficiency despite XOM&#039;s size. Here are the Fortune 100 Petro companies, ranked by percentage of profitability:

..............F100-Rank..%Profit..F100-%ProfitRank
Exxon...................1.........10.6%....23
ConocoPhillips..6...........8.1%....37
Chevron..............4...........7.4%....41
Amerada Hess.88..........5.3%....59
Marathon Oil....23..........5.1%....62
Valero Energy..15..........4.4%....71
Sunoco...............66..........3.1%....82
.

Clearly, size does seem to help profitability in Oil&amp;Gas. And maybe Raymond is worth some money, since his company has between 23.5% and 242% greater % of profit than his direct Fortune 100 competitors. (I might do this analysis for the rest of the Fortune 1000, just for yuks.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, while this is somewhat off-track to the Exxon CEO pay, it is interesting to note that Exxon only has &#8216;record profits&#8217; in an absolute sense, with record absolute total dollar of profits since Exxon is the largest revenue-producing company in the world. But Exxon only ranks 23 in percentage profitability, at 10.6%, in the recent Fortune 100 published in April 06. This is not particularly surprising, since Oil&amp;Gas is an industry with fairly high cost of infrastructue, even in an era of high oil prices. Also not surprising is that Microsoft is the clear winner in percentage of profits in the Fortune 100, at a stunning 30.8%, since they have little infrastructure costs, only really pay for employees&#8217; salaries, and have very high average margins for their products. Next in percentage of profitability are also unsurprising: Cisco (a very distant second at 23.1%), Intel (22.3%), Coca-Cola (21.1%), Merck (21.0%), Johnson &amp; Johnson (20.6%), Bank of America (19.6%), Wells Fargo (19.0%), Citigroup (18.8%), Wachovia Group (18.5%), then Pfizer, Abbott Labs, Altria Group, Goldman Sachs, P&amp;G, PepsiCo, Motorola, Amex, Prudential, AT&amp;T, Merril Lynch THEN Exxon. So clearly, Congress should pass a windfall profits tax on high-tech, banks and brokers, pharmaceutical and consumer products companies before Exxon and Oil&amp;Gas companies.</p>
<p>It is also very interesting to note that among the Fortune 100 Petroleum companies, Exxon clearly beats all of them in profitability, a striking measure of productivity and efficiency despite XOM&#8217;s size. Here are the Fortune 100 Petro companies, ranked by percentage of profitability:</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..F100-Rank..%Profit..F100-%ProfitRank<br />
Exxon&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.1&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;10.6%&#8230;.23<br />
ConocoPhillips..6&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..8.1%&#8230;.37<br />
Chevron&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..4&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..7.4%&#8230;.41<br />
Amerada Hess.88&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.5.3%&#8230;.59<br />
Marathon Oil&#8230;.23&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.5.1%&#8230;.62<br />
Valero Energy..15&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.4.4%&#8230;.71<br />
Sunoco&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;66&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.3.1%&#8230;.82<br />
.</p>
<p>Clearly, size does seem to help profitability in Oil&amp;Gas. And maybe Raymond is worth some money, since his company has between 23.5% and 242% greater % of profit than his direct Fortune 100 competitors. (I might do this analysis for the rest of the Fortune 1000, just for yuks.)</p>
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